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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mrbeige on Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:19 pm

dirtytorque wrote:Good idea with stage 1.
Just get a simple MS build going and then takeoff from there.
Good work

Got an MOT yet?

MOT is the 6th December Cool

Thought it would be a good idea to prove out the MS as a simple config. It will give me some good experience too. I was even thinking of just running fuel to start with, but I think as a wiring exercise it would just increase the total amount of work. I do have a 32-1 toothed trigger wheel, that I was going to mount on the auxiliary pulley and then run EDIS, but I like the idea of the following, along with a COP set-up, to go for the more OE look and feel...

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by saysomestuff on Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:59 pm

If we work on the assumption that mine will be in and at least at troubleshooting stage by xmas, then you could hold off your final decision until we see how blown up mine becomes?

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mrbeige on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:54 pm

Right, thought I better show what I've actually achieved so far...not a lot, but hey, it's a long and windy road...

August 29th 2007 - stripping down the 9a.....

Seem to have quite a few nuts and bolts Laughing
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When I took the oil pump off, it rattled and this fell out.... Shocked (10mm spanner there for a bit of scale)
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Anyway, managed to get this bugger out.... Was struggling to keep the pulley still whilst trying to get the central bolt out, so cunningly wrapped the cam belt around that and the crank pulley, turned it until it locked then managed to undo the bolt! using a bar with a 24mm cranked ring spanner on the end of it! How bloody tight was that!
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September 5th 2007 - more progress

Engine number two.....stripped block down, just need to get the pulleys off, but leaving them to soak in WD40 over night..
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Bores look in good nick too Very Happy Pretty sure you can still see the honing marks
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September 6th 2007 - Pistons...

The 2e piston....
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The 9a piston....
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So we have to change the crank pulley, intermediate shaft, oil pump, dizzy block-off plate. Here is a piccie of the two intermediate shafts. They are pretty much identical apart from where the pulley mounts....
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2E Intermediate shaft bearing shell looking healthy Very Happy
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The crank pulley has to be changed along with the intermediate shaft to allow the 16v head and cam pulley to work. Here is the 2e one...
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And here is the 9a one, note the 9a one is wider...
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Two oil pumps are different. 9a one is at the front...
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September 16th 2007

Eventually, after 6 separate attempts, I managed to finally get the crank pulley bolt out. I'm sure someone had welded it in and the put some threadlock from hell in there! So with that out, I could take the pistons and rods off the crank, then remove the crank.

Pistons looked a but shabby, but after a quick clean with some degresser and a washing up sponge (you know, the yellow ones with a scrubbing side, from Tescos! Laughing )......Think I need to get a stiff bristled(sp?) brush, to get into the grooves where the rings sit though.

Before
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The is an odd mark on one of the bores, but I'm wondering if it a fix to the casting?
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Had a go at cleaning the block up too, looks mightily better already
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Just need to give the bottom edge of it another go with the 'Tetroclean' and a wire brush, then sort out some paint! Decided to go for the OEM look on the install, so the block with be painted silver (although still toying with doing it black).


October 6th 2007 - Block Preparation

Finally got the engine on the stand. Woohoo! cheers
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Most of the masking done!
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The plan is to use the crank seal plates to mask off where the paint should go up to. I'm assuming that it wouldn't give a good seal if I were to paint under where the seals go??
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Am I going a bit OTT with the masking??
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October 18th 2007 - Block painted


Right, here are the photos.....
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As it stands now...

And that was about as far as I got. I've cleaned up the pistons and got the crap out of the ring lands. Junked all the bearings and rings, no real point in re-using them. Need to get the pistons valve clearanced now. Calling dirtytorque, I wonder if the company who did yours still have the measurements taken so they could do mine Smile

Can I re-use the oil pump, given that bit of metal fell out of it??

Anyway, enough of that engine for the minute, I've just seen some fuel rail extensions so I can use the 20v fuel rail with the standard valver manifold. Just a VR airbox, which will be courtesy of Tom, and some fuel line adapters, fuel line and jubilee clips, and I'll be good to go on the MS conversion Stage 1!!


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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by junkie on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:26 pm

I would for safety buy a new oil pump, it is the heart basically so no point skimping there.

So thats where the 10mm spanners disappear to, next time i lose it i will take my sump off lol! you figured where the 13mm's end up yet?

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by dirtytorque on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:40 pm

I'm going to the engineers tomorrow for some other stuff so i'll ask.
H.T Howard Motor machining in Slough.
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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mic_VR on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:45 pm

Looking good sir, can't wait to see it being built up.

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mrbeige on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:58 pm

dirtytorque wrote:I'm going to the engineers tomorrow for some other stuff so i'll ask.

Yeah, that'd be good mate, cheers Smile
mic_vr wrote:Looking good sir, can't wait to see it being built up.

I hope you don't mind waiting Laughing

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mic_VR on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:27 pm

But the sooner the engine stand is free, the sooner we can start on mine! Laughing

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by dirtytorque on Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:10 pm

mrbeige wrote:Anyway, enough of that engine for the minute, I've just seen some fuel rail extensions so I can use the 20v fuel rail with the standard valver manifold



Where can I get me some? Smile

Humbly yours...

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mrbeige on Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:29 pm

I actually got them from crookesey off CF. He was running them in his 16vT before he changed it over to the modded 20v inlet. IIRC the car used to be Peter Munns's and was originally running a TT kit.

I'll post up some pictures later, as they arrived yesterday Smile

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by dirtytorque on Fri Nov 28, 2008 12:51 pm

mrbeige wrote:I actually got them from crookesey off CF. He was running them in his 16vT before he changed it over to the modded 20v inlet. IIRC the car used to be Peter Munns's and was originally running a TT kit.

I'll post up some pictures later, as they arrived yesterday Smile

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g-werks want 160 for the billet one.
may have to go for the ebay ones,like the one flusted used.

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mrbeige on Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:31 pm

I reckon if I could find a machine shop, it might be possible to copy the ones I've got. The are only made of tubular alloy.

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by dirtytorque on Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:34 pm

mrbeige wrote:I reckon if I could find a machine shop, it might be possible to copy the ones I've got. The are only made of tubular alloy.


Give it some serious thought Stu.
Id obviously pay as long as it was cost effective. Smile

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by mrbeige on Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:41 pm

Have you got a 20v fuel rail then? I got mine with manifold and injectors for only £50.

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Re: Gooney, son of Badcrumble

Post by dirtytorque on Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:12 pm

Yeah,I've got one.£30 from the scrap yard.Not too sad.

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